flood of bounces from postmaster at systemsfirm.net

pesch at attglobal.net pesch at attglobal.net
Wed Oct 22 03:32:31 EDT 2003

Perhaps it's not related to the topic but any mail I post to this list results automatically in a "incident
report" to my mail provider (attglobal.net) which then automatically replies with the mail below. Any inquiry to
attglobal.net with the reference number below results always in exactly 0 (zero) replies from attglobal.

Paul Schenker

                 from e4.ny.us.ibm.com ([]) by prserv.net (in5) with ESMTP
                 id <20031021031824105041p20me>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:18:27 +0000
                 from northrelay01.pok.ibm.com (northrelay01.pok.ibm.com
                 []) by e4.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id
                 h9L3IN0N801416 for <pesch at attglobal.net>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003
                 23:18:23 -0400
                 from BLDVMB.POK.IBM.COM (d01av01.pok.ibm.com [])
                 by northrelay01.pok.ibm.com (8.12.9/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id
                 h9L3IMqW036946 for
                 <@vm-av.pok.relay.ibm.com:pesch at attglobal.net>; Mon, 20 Oct 2003
                 23:18:22 -0400
                 <200310210318.h9L3IMqW036946 at northrelay01.pok.ibm.com>
                 by BLDVMB.POK.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP Level 320) via spool
                 with SMTP id 7133 ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:09:30 MDT
                 Mon, 20 OCT 2003 23:13:12 (-0400 GMT)
                 notify at attglobal.net
                 <PESCH at attglobal.net>
                 Re: Solaris Fire Engine. (REF:#_CSSEMAIL_0870689)

An incident reported by you has been created.              Sev: 4
The incident # is listed below. No need to respond to this e-mail.
For Account:  CSSEMAIL  Incident Number:     0870689 Status:  INITIAL
Last Updated:        Mon, 20 OCT 2003 23:13:12 (-0400 GMT) PROBLEM CREATED

Summary: Re: Solaris Fire Engine.


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Donald Becker wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Robert G. Brown wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Trent Piepho wrote:
> >
> > > I'm getting a flood of bounced messages from postmaster at systemsfirm.net, every
> > > messages I've sent to this list has started bouncing back to me from
> > > dan at systemsfirm.com.  I'm getting about ten copies of each one every other
> > > day.  Is anyone else having this problem?
> >
> > Oh yes, and it is a SERIOUS problem.  I was just mulling on the right
> There are many more problems that list readers do not see.  I delete the
> address from the list only when the problem is persistent.
> The major problem happens when messages take a few days to bounce, and
> the bounce does not follow standards.  In that case there are dozens of
> messages in the remote queue, and they all appears to be replies by a
> valid list subscriber.

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