brockp at umich.edu
Tue Jun 23 22:03:35 EDT 2009
Yeah you appear right, did some small tests, does not work on a
normal machine, damn, just regular documentation (does it ever get
read by grad students?).
yeah looks like we dug up all the same stuff.
Glad you enjoy the show! FYI, Jeff and I are skipping a show, I am
out all this week in DC at TeraGrid 09, which for a show that has
~150 consistent listeners, no one has called me out and the guy from
the show. More audience to reach I guess :-)
Thanks for the input!
Center for Advanced Computing
brockp at umich.edu
On Jun 23, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Gus Correa wrote:
> Hi Brock, Alan, list
> First off ...
> Brock: thanks for the RCE Podcast.
> It is great!
> For those who don't know it,
> and are interested in all aspects of HPC,
> here is the link:
> Brock Palen wrote:
> > I noticed that the cray XT machines are setting an environment
> > 'PGI_POST_COMPILE_OPTS' to -tp barcelona-64
> > Is this a cray specific thing?
> It seems to be a Cray thing indeed.
> There are equivalent flags for GNU and PATHSCALE on Cray also.
> See these links:
> See also pages 65-67 of this Cray document:
> I would guess the Cray "libsci" somehow adds those flags on the fly
> when you launch the PGI compilers (or alias the pgi compiler
> On our (non-Cray) Linux cluster with
> AMD quad-core I have to include those optimization flags by hand.
> In our case, for AMD Shanghai it is -tp shanghai-64.
> Likewise for Intel machines (with different -tp flags, of course).
> I have checked a number of PGI files and there is no such a thing
> as a PGI_POST_COMPILE_OPTS environment variable.
> For instance, their suggestions for "module" files set these
> PGI, CC, CPP, CXX, FC, F77, F90, PATH, MANPATH, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
> However, no machine-dependent optimization flag is set,
> no PGI_POST_COMPILE_OPTS either.
> (The default machine-independent optimization level,
> according to man pgf90, is -01.)
> You can check these module.skel files in:
> pgi/8.0-4/linux86-64/8.0-4/etc/modulefiles/ (whatever version you have
> mine is 8.0-4).
> Note also that the PGI directory tree has a specific "cray"
> directory, with several libraries, which suggests that PGI does some
> special voodoo on Cray machines.
> Intel has the ifort.cfg, icc.cfg, icpc.cfg files that allow the
> compilers to be configured/customized with user/system options.
> I couldn't find an equivalent scheme on PGI.
> My $0.02.
> Gus Correa
> Gustavo Correa
> Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory - Columbia University
> Palisades, NY, 10964-8000 - USA
> > the -tp flag is a normal pgi compiler
> > option, I want to know if I can use this variable to set options for
> > specific people (module files), and not make a change global in
> > I can't find it documented any place, other than the cray module
> > and I can't find its value any place looking on NICS Kraken, any
> > would be great to know if I can use this option or not.
> > Brock Palen
> > www.umich.edu/~brockp
> > Center for Advanced Computing
> > brockp at umich.edu
> > (734)936-1985
> Alan Louis Scheinine wrote:
>> Brock Palen,
>> In your original posting you spoke of setting options using
>> without specifying the type of option. In your follow-up post you
>>> using PGI's unified binary, to support all of these
>>> -tp x64,amd64e,barcelona-64
>> Interesting. A PGI WWW page says:
>> PGI compilers can generate a single PGI Unified Binary™ executable
>> > fully optimized for both Intel EM64T and AMD64 processors,
>> > all the benefits of a single x64 platform while enabling you to
>> > the latest innovations from both Intel and AMD.
>> For different AMD revisions also in the same binary? Reading the
>> manual, it seems
>> that there are no restrictions on what can be in the "-tp" list.
>> The environment variable PGI_POST_COMPILE_OPTS seems like the
>> place to set the "-tp" options. Tell use whether the Cray digests
>> innovative use.
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