<div>Gerry,</div>
<div>Yeah. I think Korn is the "preferred" shell at AT&T too. But better for you to dumb down your tcsh (say) to ksh (say) for the make, than for the sysadmin to. </div>
<div>Unfortunately the infinite flexibilty of the open environment (my choice of vi, or emacs!!) leads to uncontrollable variety, which frightens many responsible parties. </div>
<div>My rule of thumb is to use the tools of **my** choice, to build products that contain the maintainable methods of the **owner's** choice. So I use vi to code, but if an app has to spawn an editor session for a user, it spawns Notepad.
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<div>Peter<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/12/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Gerry Creager</b> <<a href="mailto:gerry.creager@tamu.edu">gerry.creager@tamu.edu</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Peter,<br><br>To some extent I can understand the need to specialize shells,<br>especially for optimization of batch processing directives. However,
<br>someone reasonably competent with a particular shell should be able to<br>set up environment variables and such in a manner likely to make a build<br>work.<br><br>Add as a complication, that the WRF scripts are prepackaged and not in
<br>the (preferred) korn shell... I'm not sure I want to undertake<br>relearning korn to do that translation!<br><br>Anyway, thanks for the note. I'm slowly changing how I do my work to<br>satisfy the sysadmin on an AiX machine (which also satisfies my boss...)
<br><br>gerry<br><br>Peter St. John wrote:<br>> Gerry,<br>> I just wanted to note that if it's difficult to recompile using a<br>> different shell, perhaps because of elaborate build scripts in tcsh or<br>> something, then your admin is right, he can't help you debug the make
<br>> until you switch shells. With the burgeoning complexity of the business<br>> specialization is necessary. We can't expect admins to be programmers<br>> too, anymore.<br>><br>> If I install LISP and emacs on this XP box I can't expect the MCSE to
<br>> help me :-) for reductio ad absurdum :-)<br>><br>> Peter<br>><br>><br>> On 4/12/07, *Gerry Creager* <<a href="mailto:gerry.creager@tamu.edu">gerry.creager@tamu.edu</a><br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gerry.creager@tamu.edu">
gerry.creager@tamu.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> I'm trying to get WRF-NMM running on a new IBM p575 and having some<br>> issues. Anyone on here gone down that path and willing to offer a<br>> little advice?
<br>><br>> Please reply off-list. Note: AiX spoken on this system. Leads to all<br>> sorts of interesting things when the sysadmin states he can't tell me<br>> why it fails to compile 'til I stop using either bash or sh as my
<br>> shell.<br>><br>> gerry<br>> --<br>> Gerry Creager -- <a href="mailto:gerry.creager@tamu.edu">gerry.creager@tamu.edu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gerry.creager@tamu.edu">gerry.creager@tamu.edu
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