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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Could be just tactic. Sun is going to lay off a percentage of their workforce anyway, and it's sommon for sales people to take advantage of news like that. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>This is why it's so important to be able to independently verify sales claims. I don't even talk about sales with someone unless I can put their demo product or source code to use in a production envorionment first.</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Richard Schilling</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Ron Chen [<A HREF="mailto:ron_chen_123@yahoo.com">mailto:ron_chen_123@yahoo.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 12:09 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: Schilling, Richard; 'beowulf@beowulf.org'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: RE: some comments overheard by Platform Computing rep</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> May be Platform is just using the M$ way to market</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> their products - not as good as other opensource</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> products (PBS, SGE) but they just know how to sell?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Should we call it L$F?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -Ron</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> --- "Schilling, Richard"</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> <RSchilling@affiliatedhealth.org> wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > I haven't heard anything - in fact what I know to be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > true is contrary to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > what that sales rep. said. Sun changed their focus</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > in that they opened up</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > the code. So, what that means is that you can, in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > theory, hire someone like</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > me or from this list to keep the software updated to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > meet your needs.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Richard Schilling</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Webmaster / Web Integration Programmer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Affiliated Health Services</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Mount Vernon, WA USA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > <A HREF="http://www.affiliatedhealth.org" TARGET="_blank">http://www.affiliatedhealth.org</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > phone: 360.856.7129</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > From: Ron Chen [<A HREF="mailto:ron_chen_123@yahoo.com">mailto:ron_chen_123@yahoo.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:01 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > To: Beowulf</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Subject: FW: some comments overheard by Platform</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Computing rep</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Have anyone heard something similar before?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > -Ron</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > Date Posted: 04-oct-01, 10:44</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > Posted by: Sam Mingolelli </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > I was just at a Kodak sponsored 2 day conference</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > which had a platform computing booth at it. A</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > rep. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > who shall remain nameless apparently made some </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > negative comments about gridware that I would</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > like </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > to get your feedback on. He said the usual stuff</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > that companies say like there product is better</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > also tried to use the scare tactic saying that </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > gridware doesn't scale as well or have the level</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > reporting that LSF does. Given our needs and 0 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > experience with clusters as a whole, we've been </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > pleased with the setup/performance/functionality</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > that is available in Gridware. Anyway one</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > comment </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > that kind of rattled my manager went like this:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > rep </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > says, "Well SUN is changing there focus and has </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > layed off several of the Gridware staff and is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > now </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > down playing Gridware as a product." Could</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > someone </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > please comment on this?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > For reference:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > <A HREF="http://supportforum.Sun.COM/cgi-bin/WebX.cgi" TARGET="_blank">http://supportforum.Sun.COM/cgi-bin/WebX.cgi</A> 13@1</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > 02.q68Baxx2ec9^0@.ee8e727</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > </FONT>
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