[Beowulf] building Infiniband 4x cluster questions
Greg at Keller.net
Mon Nov 7 15:21:51 EST 2011
> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:16:00 -0500
> From: Prentice Bisbal<prentice at ias.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Beowulf] building Infiniband 4x cluster questions
> Cc: Beowulf Mailing List<beowulf at beowulf.org>
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> Don't forget that between SDR and QDR, there is DDR. If SDR is too
> slow, and QDR is too expensive, DDR might be just right.
And for DDR a key thing is, when latency matters, "ConnectX" DDR is much
better than the earlier "Infinihost III" DDR cards. We have 100's of
each and the ConnectX make a large impact for some codes. Although
nearly antique now, we actually have plans for the ConnectX cards in yet
another round of updated systems. This is the 3rd Generation system I
have been able to re-use the cards in (Harperton, Nehalem, and now
Single Socket Sandy Bridge), which makes me very happy. A great
investment that will likely live until PCI-Gen3 slots are the norm.
> On 11/07/2011 11:58 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>> > hi Prentice,
>> > I had noticed the diff between SDR up to QDR,
>> > the SDR cards are affordable, the QDR isn't.
>> > The SDR's are all $50-$75 on ebay now. The QDR's i didn't find cheap
>> > prices in that pricerange yet.
>> > If i would want to build a network that's low latency and had a budget
>> > of $800 or so a node of course i would
>> > build a dolphin SCI network, as that's probably the fastest latency
>> > card sold for a $675 or so a piece.
>> > I do not really see a rival latency wise to Dolphin there. I bet most
>> > manufacturers selling clusters don't use
>> > it as they can make $100 more profit or so selling other networking
>> > stuff, and universities usually swallow that.
>> > So price total dominates the network. As it seems now infiniband 4x is
>> > not going to offer enough performance.
>> > The one-way pingpong latencies over a switch that i see of it, are not
>> > very convincing. I see remote writes to RAM
>> > are like nearly 10 microseconds for 4x infiniband and that card is the
>> > only one affordable.
>> > The old QM400's i have here are one-way pingpong 2.1 us or so, and
>> > QM500-B's are plentyful on the net (of course big disadvantage: needs
>> > pci-x),
>> > which are a 1.3 us or so there and have SHMEM. Not seeing a cheap
>> > switch for the QM500's though nor cables.
>> > You see price really dominates everything here. Small cheap nodes you
>> > cannot build if the port price, thanks to expensive network card,
>> > more than doubles.
>> > Power is not the real concern for now - if a factory already burns a
>> > couple of hundreds of megawatts, a small cluster somewhere on the
>> > attick eating
>> > a few kilowatts is not really a problem:)
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