[Beowulf] OT: Last resort query here... (but it's NOT about a Win Wulf...)

Peter St. John peter.st.john at gmail.com
Thu Apr 12 12:41:13 EDT 2007


Gerry,
Yeah. I think Korn is the "preferred" shell at AT&T too. But better for you
to dumb down your tcsh (say) to ksh (say) for the make, than for the
sysadmin to.
Unfortunately the infinite flexibilty of the open environment (my choice of
vi, or emacs!!) leads to uncontrollable variety, which frightens many
responsible parties.
My rule of thumb is to use the tools of **my** choice, to build products
that contain the maintainable methods of the **owner's** choice. So I use vi
to code, but if an app has to spawn an editor session for a user, it spawns
Notepad.
Peter


On 4/12/07, Gerry Creager <gerry.creager at tamu.edu> wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> To some extent I can understand the need to specialize shells,
> especially for optimization of batch processing directives.  However,
> someone reasonably competent with a particular shell should be able to
> set up environment variables and such in a manner likely to make a build
> work.
>
> Add as a complication, that the WRF scripts are prepackaged and not in
> the (preferred) korn shell... I'm not sure I want to undertake
> relearning korn to do that translation!
>
> Anyway, thanks for the note.  I'm slowly changing how I do my work to
> satisfy the sysadmin on an AiX machine (which also satisfies my boss...)
>
> gerry
>
> Peter St. John wrote:
> > Gerry,
> > I just wanted to note that if it's difficult to recompile using a
> > different shell, perhaps because of elaborate build scripts in tcsh or
> > something, then your admin is right, he can't help you debug the make
> > until you switch shells. With the burgeoning complexity of the business
> > specialization is necessary. We can't expect admins to be programmers
> > too, anymore.
> >
> > If I install LISP and emacs on this XP box I can't expect the MCSE to
> > help me :-) for reductio ad absurdum :-)
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > On 4/12/07, *Gerry Creager* <gerry.creager at tamu.edu
> > <mailto:gerry.creager at tamu.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >     I'm trying to get WRF-NMM running on a new IBM p575 and having some
> >     issues.  Anyone on here gone down that path and willing to offer a
> >     little advice?
> >
> >     Please reply off-list.  Note: AiX spoken on this system.  Leads to
> all
> >     sorts of interesting things when the sysadmin states he can't tell
> me
> >     why it fails to compile 'til I stop using either bash or sh as my
> >     shell.
> >
> >     gerry
> >     --
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