[Beowulf] 'dual' Quad solution from Tyan

Joe Landman landman at scalableinformatics.com
Wed Mar 1 12:21:12 EST 2006


On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:38:31 +0000 (WET), Ricardo Reis wrote
> Thank you all for your reply's.
> 
>   1. The system will be used for CFD intensive calculation, using 
> comercial and in the house codes, MPI flavor;

You want smaller systems then.

>   2. The cluster I've thought to build initially would be:   * 8 
> nodes (including master), with dual motherboards (2 Opteron CPUs,
>  single core)   * 16 Opteron 2.4GHz;   * 4 GB per node (32 GB total)
> ;   * 1 80 Gb disc (SATA II) per node for system and scratch space;  
>  * 2 80 Gb disc (SATA II) for system on master, on RAID 1;   * 3 500 
> Gb disc (SATA II) for storage, home;   * 2 Gigabit switch, one for 
> MPI, another for system and NFS;   * Motherboard is the Tyan 
> S2882G3NR-D;

Not the best choice of MB.  Uses broadcom NICs, and we have seen higher than
we like failure rates with Tyan MBs at our customers sites.

>    3. I thought that the lantency in this VX50 would be far less 
> than in the Gigabit network;

Possibly, but at a much higher cost.  If latency is your issue go with
Infinipath or Infiniband (for the moment).  I have been hearing interesting
things about 10Gbe, but haven't had a chance to look into it yet in great depth.

>    4. The solution for cluster vs. VX50 is around less 3500 euro for 
> the VX50;

Interesting.  You could get a bunch of single CPU boards, load them with dual
core units, and come in at a lower price point.

>    5. I thought also that the requirements in HVAC would be less for 
> the VX50;

Fewer PS, more fans, more noise, single point of failure (the last one is bad).

>    6. I'm aware and thinking that this technology is new and can be 
> a single-point of failure, regarding the cluster option;

Yes.

>    7. Why 2 single core are better than a dual core? because of 
> sharing resources?

Actually for CFD, it depends upon the code and the memory access patterns.  If
you fill up the memory channel with one core, the second core will have to
wait to access the memory.

> 
>    thanks for your knowledge sharing,
> 
>   Ricardo Reis
> 
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