[Beowulf] SC|05: will 10Ge beat IB?
oplehto at csc.fi
Tue Nov 22 03:41:36 EST 2005
ctierney at hypermall.net wrote:
> Quoting Mark Hahn <hahn at physics.mcmaster.ca>:
>>last year, there was lots of buzz around IB as an up-and-comer,
>>with some undercurrents of doubt related to latency, memory
>>consumption on large nets, proliferation of stacks, etc.
>>this year, the picture was a lot clearer, with at least some
>>progress on all these. lots of vendors pushing IB, including
>>some starting to push IB for storage. IB-storage vendors seem
>>to be regarding it as a faster FC, though - to me, that's a huge
>>step backwards, since FC was never really inter-operable, at least
>>not in the sense that ethernet is inter-op.
>>further, there was also LOTS of 10G ethernet this year, and I have
>>to wonder: will 10G squeeze IB out of the market?
> That depends. Do you think that iSCSI (or some other variant) is finally
> going to take off as it was supposed to? IB has some QoS features that
> may be important when using IB for multiple purposes, like HSN and FC.
> I don't know if that is true, just a theory.
> Also, 10G is still quite expensive (except Myrinet 10g).
> Fibre-media converters are still expensive and as far as I have heard, no
> one is pushing 10G over copper. IB is quite cheap compared to 10G, but
> it is a new technology and adoption outside of HPC is slow. The volume
> isn't there yet to bring pricing where it should be.
Chelsio's T210-CX4 TOE NIC has been around for about a year. Like the
Myricom product it utilizes the 10GBase-CX standard. It essentially
pushes 10GbE over InfiniBand cabling directly using the XAUI interface
(normally used for on-PCB communication on 10G devices).
There are also several vendors which provide interface modules for
switches. Of course with 10Gbase-CX you lose the advantage of common and
relatively cheap UTP cabling and are limited to 50ft per link. It seems
to me to be a stopgap standard that will be overtaken by 10Gbase-T in a
few years time.
I don't have a quote on the pricing but it should be competitive with
IB. If anyone insight on the economics and performance of 10GBase-CX vs.
IB in cluster applications I'd be interested to hear it.
Olli-Pekka Lehto, Systems Specialist, Systems Services, CSC
PO Box 405 02101 Espoo, Finland; tel +358 9 457 2215, fax +358 9 4572302
CSC is the Finnish IT Center for Science, www.csc.fi,
e-mail: Olli-Pekka.Lehto at csc.fi
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