[Beowulf] The Case for an MPI ABI

Joachim Worringen joachim at ccrl-nece.de
Thu Feb 24 08:30:09 EST 2005


Greg Lindahl wrote:
> I don't think it's "much reduced" by this, but I think it's clear this
> would be a matter of opinion. What you'll definitely be able to do is
> run an application built on a particular Linux version with different
> MPI libraries compiled for that same Linux version.  You are correct
> that if the MPI library was built for a wildly different Linux distro
> than the app, you can't necessarily put them together.

This problem left apart, do you know of ISV's that would at least be 
willing to think about giving support to an MPI ABI no matter which 
implementation and interconnect, and not a specific MPI library? Because 
this is what matters.

For open source software packages alone, an ABI is not of critical 
importance as people with a tcp/ip cluster can use pre-linkked packages, 
and people with a high-perfomance interconnect cluster typically have 
enough competence to compile the software themselves.

>>Another problem are i.e. vendor-specific assertions that could conflict. 
>>A solution for this could be "numerical namespaces" for such extensions, 
>>but how should they be managed?
> 
> This is certainly something that a committe would discuss. There are
> plenty of examples of this problem being solved successfully by
> handing out numeric ranges.

Well, for MAC addresses, PCI device ids etc, there are professional 
organisations that care for this. For MPI; there is no such instituion. 
ANL? Maybe.

But maybe there's another technical solution, if the linked library 
could somehow know which variant of mpi.h the code was compiled against, 
which then would determine the meaning of all assertion beyond 1024 (or 
some other limit). Something coded into MPI_Init() or it's arguments 
might be a way.. hacky, hacky.

>>And what about the different calling-conventions in Fortran?
> 
> The calling conventions differences (in Linux) revolve around the
> f2c-abi issue, and it so happens that no MPI routines trip on this
> issue, as it only affects functions that return REAL*4 or COMPLEX
> types. Did I miss a function that has those return types?

I did not think of this, but more of issues like "string as an argument" 
as the way how the string length is passed is not standardized. Then 
there are issues with getting access to global variables from COMMON 
blocks etc. which are hard (if at all) to be solved with one shared 
object file for multiple compilers. We currently need to link a small 
extra object file depending on the compiler used.

This does not mean that we should not continue thinking about an ABI, 
but there's more than unifying mpi.h to be able to use a single shared 
library.

   Joachim

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