[Beowulf] MPI performance on clusters of SMP

Mario Donato Marino mario at regulus.pcs.usp.br
Fri Aug 27 13:11:59 EDT 2004



On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Franz Marini wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 20:22, Kozin, I (Igor) wrote:

>   To give you an example of the complexity of the problem, on our
> dual-Xeons, Infiniband cluster, using both Gromacs and CPMD, we are able
> to achieve a much better scalability using 2*N x 1 cpus than N x 2. It
> looks like dual-Xeons have a big performance hit when the two cpus run
> the same process (thus with the same memory access pattern). Please note
> that if you run a copy of Gromacs on N x 1 and at the same time you run
> a copy of CPMD on N x 1 (thus using all 2*N cpus, but with different
> processes between each of the two cpus of each node, and thus different
> mem access patterns), you achieve almost perfect scalability with both
> programs. Thus, it looks like Xeons are heavily (negatively) impacted by
> the mem access pattern of the processes running on the cpus of a smp
> box. I've been told that with Opterons this kind of problems are much
> less present.

But, what is the main reason of achieving better scalability using
different memory access pattern in a dual-Xeon?

>
>  Oh, btw, the same olds true if you launch two Gromacs instances each on
> N x 1 at different times (or with different inputs), so it really looks
> like it is a problem directly related to the memory access patterns of
> the processes running on the cpus.
>
>  In the  end, I'd say that if you plan to run only a single copy of a
> single programs across the whole cluster, you'd better off with a 2*N x
> 1 solution. On the other hand, if you plan to run different programs at
> the same time, a N x 2 solution is much better (you have much lower
> costs (provided we're talking about high speed interconnections, because
> fast ethernet and even gigabit are quite cheap right now) with almost
> the same (global) performance).
>
>
Thanks,

	Mario
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