list managemnt issue

Chris Samuel csamuel at vpac.org
Thu Nov 13 18:06:55 EST 2003


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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:52 am, Angel Rivera wrote:

> Don't wanna get RBL'd?  Keep your system tighened down. Someone does not
> get into RBLs by keeping their system configured correctly.

This is rapidly getting off-topic, but this needed addressing.

People *can* get into blacklists without doing anything wrong, if the 
maintainers are overly broad with their brush (such as listing entire class-C 
networks at hosting companies) or because of malicious/clueless submission of 
reports.

Debian blacklisted:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200207/msg00044.html

The Age newspaper report on SpamCop blocking entire /24's (and hence Politech 
and others):

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/12/19/1040174329829.html

Politech blocked 3 times by SpamCop:

http://www.politechbot.com/p-04121.html

Peacefire become collateral damage to a netblock blocked by MAPS for hosting a 
site selling spam software:

http://slashdot.org/yro/00/12/13/1853237.shtml

RFC-ignorant blacklists the entire 202/7 netblock:

http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists/apops/archive/2001/10/msg00009.html

Now note I'm not saying that blacklists are bad, just that there *is* 
collateral damage from them, and as long as people are aware of that and 
decide they can tolerate the risk then that's fine.

Chris
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 Christopher Samuel - (03)9925 4751 - VPAC Systems & Network Admin
 Victorian Partnership for Advanced Computing http://www.vpac.org/
 Bldg 91, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton South, VIC 3053, Australia

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