[Beowulf] Quiet *and* powerful
James.P.Lux at jpl.nasa.gov
Fri Dec 12 17:48:26 EST 2003
First question... does it "really" need to be in the same room?
There is a huge variation in fan noise among models and makes of fan, and,
furthermore, the structural stuff around it has an effect. Perhaps just
buying quieter fans and retrofitting?
Can you put the whole thing in a BIG sound isolated box (read, rack)...
most equipment racks aren't designed for good acoustical properties. There
are, however, industries which are noise level sensitive (sound recording
and mixing), and they have standard 19" racks, but with better
If you're not hugely cost constrained, you can do away with fans entirely
and sink the whole thing into a tank of fluorinert (but, at $70+/gallon....)
The other thing to think about is whether many smaller/lower power nodes
can do your job. If things scaled exactly as processor speed (don't we
wish).. you've got 12 * 2.4 GHz = 28.8 GHz... Could 40 or 50 1GHz VIA type
fanless processors work?
Overall, your best bet might be to get some custom sheet metal made to
mount your motherboards in a more congenial (acoustic and thermal)
environment. Rather than have 2 layers of metal between each mobo, make a
custom enclosure that stacks the boards a few inches apart, and which
shares a couple big, but quiet, fans to push air through it.
In general, for a given amount of air moved, small fans are much less
efficient and more noisy than big fans. (efficiency and noise are not very
well correlated... the mechanical power in the noise is vanishingly small).
At 12:08 PM 12/12/2003 -0500, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
>Yes, I know this has been discussed a couple of times, and that my stated
>goals are at odds with each other. But I really need the best bang for
>the noise for a system that will reside in the same room with patients
>undergoing diagnostic ultrasound scanning. Our current setup (6 1U dual
>2.4GHz Xeons, with about 11 little fans per node) is ridiculously loud,
>and annoys both the patients and the physicians. This is Bad.
>We're willing to pay for better, but don't want to take too much of a
>speed hit. Does anybody have a good vendor for quiet but still high
>performing systems? Is there any hope in the 1U form factor (my Opteron
>nodes are somewhat quieter, since they use squirrel cage fans, but are
>still too loud), or should I look at, e.g., putting Quad Opterons in a 3
>or 4U case? Or should I look at lashing together some towers (this system
>also needs to be somewhat portable)?
>Thanks for any hints, pointers, recommendations, or flames.
>Department of Biomedical Engineering
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