[Linux-ia64] Re: Itanium gets supercomputing software
duraid at octopus.com.au
Fri Apr 11 18:54:56 EDT 2003
David Mosberger wrote:
>>>>>>On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 06:49:35 +1000, Duraid Madina <duraid at octopus.com.au> said:
> Duraid> My point wasn't that software simulators are useless, but
> Duraid> that software simulators _should_ be useless **4 years**
> Duraid> (!!) after the public availability of hardware.
> Then how do you explain the popularity of user-mode linux on x86?
If user-mode linux is "popular", then linux is "f@#%g buggy s#!t". I
mean really, when your attitude to software development is:
<Linus> hey somethings wrong my swap is full what gives????
<Rik Riel> stop running 91589 copies of XMMS 8)
<Linus> shut up riel god i hate you
** Riel is banned from linux-kernel
<Andrea> YO CHECK OUT THE NEW VM SYSTEM I WROTE THIS
MORNING^H^H^H^H^H^H^HWEEK!! ITLL FIX YOUR PROBLEMS!!!!
<Linus> k i know 2.4 is supposed to be a "stable" kernel but god i hate
that riel dude!! :| welp.. out with the old, in with the new!!!!!
** Linus integrates new VM
<Andrea> THANKS D00D
<Linus> no probs m8
..then yes, having UML as a sandbox can help.
The UML guys see it differently though. According to them: "It doesn't
need to be good for anything. It's fun!" Maybe Ski can embrace this
spirit also. ;)
> The reason I continue to use Ski is because it's one of the very few
> simulators out there that are (a) architecturally extremely accurate,
> (b) fast, and (c) very easy to setup & use. Ski is an asset for ia64
> linux, not a weakness.
> (And no, just because we have Ski doesn't mean we don't use real
> hardware. Nothing could be further from the truth.)
That's right - _you_ use real hardware because you actually have it.
Everyone else (figuratively speaking, though it's not far off the mark)
has no choice _but_ to use Ski. That sucks, regardless of whether or not
Ski is accurate, fast, or easy to use.
Anyway, I don't think there's much more that can be said. As Matt
indicated, we must pray for Deerfield, so I will continue to align my
holy carpet of hope to Fort Collins/Portland/Carly's hotel bedroom and
pray for reasonably priced IA64 hardware.
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