PORTLAND COMPILERS

Craig Tierney ctierney at hpti.com
Fri Jun 14 14:32:08 EDT 2002


I asked the question in a different manner to make things easy.

"If I compile and application with your compiler, am I allowed
to run that application on another machine, or do I have to pay
for a seat of the compiler for that other machine?"

Give a binary to a friend, put that same binary on 100 nodes there
really isn't a difference.

Craig

> Craig,
> 
> Thanks for clarification. We have already spoken to them, but PGI
> saleswoman could not spell out distinctly runtime restrictions.
> 
> Ivan 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Craig Tierney wrote:
> 
> > If all you want to do is compile and run MPI processes you can just
> > get the PGI workstation set for $560.  You can ask PGI about this
> > themselves.  I asked the same questions before and this is what
> > they told me.
> > 
> > Intel are very good for P4/Xeon systems.  I haven't tried their compiler
> > on P3s (but SSE support is very useful).  Intel did well on AMD systems
> > as well, but for MY codes the Intel boxes were still faster.
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> > > Hi Craig,
> > > 
> > > I should be more specific in formulating my question: I DO NOT WANT to run
> > > compilation of programs on each node, all the developer's work is supposed
> > > to be done on master node. However, resulting MPI binary will be run
> > > across the cluster. I don't care how many users can compile programs
> > > simultaneously on master node, but what I care is how many MPI processes
> > > can I utilize during program execution. Do I need to buy 48 processor
> > > license bundled in PGI CDK cluster development kit for $3,600 or can I
> > > survive with just PGI workstation set for $560?
> > > 
> > > Ivan
> > > 
> > > P.S. People are complaining about quality of the PGI compilers, but still,
> > > I would like to have several compilers to compare performances for
> > > different applications.
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Craig Tierney wrote:
> > > 
> > > > It means that if you have 128 cpus in your cluster that you
> > > > have to buy 128 licenses of the CDK.
> > > > 
> > > > However, if all you want is their compilers you can buy licenses
> > > > for only where you compile.  You can download mpich or lam for
> > > > free and you can run on as many nodes as you like.
> > > > 
> > > > Disclaimer, I don't know if they changed the licensing for 4.0, but
> > > > I doubt it.
> > > > 
> > > > Craig
> > > > 
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Ivan I. Oleynik                       E-mail : oleynik at chuma.cas.usf.edu
> > > Department of Physics
> > > University of South Florida
> > > 4202 East Fowler Avenue                  Tel : (813) 974-8186
> > > Tampa, Florida 33620-5700                Fax : (813) 974-5813
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> > Craig Tierney (ctierney at hpti.com)
> > 

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