INTEL XEON vs AMD ATHLON

samson swanson intellectcrew at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 13 18:17:38 EDT 2002


Hello Ivan,

Overclocking for the most part is pretty simple. Well
it goes from Bios settings all the way to soldering
and plyers.

 To get a good oc out of the system i mentioned I
would use PC2400 or PC2700 ram, instead of PC2100. 
This way you will be able to get up to them max MHz,
and prevent damaging the ram.

 1. Your enemy is heat. Keep your system cool and you
will be good. 

 Okay I mentioned the Thermalright AX-7 heatsink. (
currently rated # 1 for cooling in the heatsink field
) 

 2. You can never be too cold. for instance, -256
celsius is fine (when your doing cooling at temps that
form ice, insulation is used to prefent water damage.)

increase bus MHz, increase multiplyer, various Bios
settings...

www.overclockers.com

bus x multiplyer = cpu MHz

100MHz bus X 5.5 multiplyer = 550MHz cpu  

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Honestly for a cluster I would use a ...

-AMD AthlonXP 1800+ (cheap, fast)
-have them unlocked to run dual
-Thermalright AX-7 + fan 
(delta fan if you don't mind noise)
-non-overclock 
(for maxium stability in your cluster) 
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P.S. around december, hopefully sooner the Dual AMD
Sledgehammer will be coming out. [ 2.5GHz .09Mu ]

   
--- Ivan Oleynik <oleynik at chuma.cas.usf.edu> wrote:
> Hi Samson,
> 
> I have couple of questions: 
> 
> 1. You quoted the system with single processor. It
> would be
> interesting to see your economical solution for dual
> processor system.
> 
> 2. You mentioned overlocking. I am not a specialist
> in this area, but
> assume I want to get as much as possible from the
> system. What do I
> physically need to do: changing some jumpers on
> motherboad, putting water
> cooled heat sinks ... ?
> 
> Thanks for your response,
> 
> Ivan
> 
>
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> 
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, samson swanson wrote:
> 
> > ----------
> >  Master 
> > ----------
> > AMD AthlonXP 1900+
> > Epox 8k3A                     $83
> > 
> > ---------
> > Nodes
> > ---------
> > AMD AthlonXP 1700+ (1.466GHz) $86
> > Epox 8k3A                     $83
> > PC2100 DDR 256MB              $32
> > 
> > These are awesome for overclocking, Epox 8k3A!.
> with a
> > good chip you can pull out 1.8GHz. which will
> smoke a
> > p4-2.5GHz easy.
> > 
> > i built a system for you to get some idea's using
> > www.newegg.com
> > 
> > You can shave off $100~200 by taking off the
> GeForce
> > and going for PC2100 instead of PC2400. Also i put
> in
> > a 400 watt ATX. Bottom line, awesome system to
> > overclock. Great for upgrading in the future. 
> >  
> >   Also add a Case to this price setup +$39.00
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Arctic Silver's NEW Premium Silver Polysynthetic
> > Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 3. 3-gram( 1 cc. )
> > tube. Artic Silver
> > N82E16835100003
> > $6.00
> > $6.00
> >                               
> > 
> > Thermalright AX-7 ( Heatsink ONLY ). Copper heat
> > spread. Dimension: L77 x W72 x H42 (mm). Will not
> fit
> > on a Soltek 75-DRVX motherboard. Retail. Please
> see
> > the image.
> > N82E16835109002
> > $28.00
> > $28.00
> >                                          
> > 
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> MODEL
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> > Specifications:
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> > 
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> > $74.00
> > $74.00
> > 
> >                                          
> > 
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> RAM -
> > OEM 32x64 184-Pin, CAS2 -Unbuffered Requires DDR
> > supported Motherboard  - Lifetime Warranty.
> > N82E16820145300
> > $78.00
> > $78.00
> >                                        
> > 
> > EPOX 8K3A+ KT333CE DDR333 266MHz FSB ATA133 RAID
> > Socket A MOTHERBOARD - RETAIL With 6-Channel
> Audio.
> > N82E16813123164
> > $108.00
> > $108.00
> >           
> > 
> > SPARKLE 400 WATTS ATX UL APPROVED POWER SUPPLY
> MODEL #
> > FSP400-60GN(12V) - OEM AMD (Athlon XP 2100+)
> Approved
> > & Intel Pentium 4 Ready - One Year Warranty
> > N82E16817103407
> > $72.00
> > $72.00
> > 
> > 
> > AMD 1700+/266 FSB Athlon XP PROCESSOR CPU- OEM
> Athlon
> > XP 1700+/ 1.47GHz, AX1700DMT3C. The AMD Athlon XP
> > processor with QuantiSpeed architecture powers the
> > next generation in computing platforms, delivering
> > extra performance for cutting-edge applications
> and an
> > extraordinary computing experience.
> > Specifications:
> > CPU:  1.47 GHz
> > Type:  1700 XP
> > Cache:  256K
> > BUS: 266MHz
> > Socket  A (PGA)
> > OEM (Processor Only)
> > N82E16819103305
> > $84.00
> > $84.00
> > 
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> > Specifications:
> > GPU: 256-bit GeForce4 MX (270MHz clock)
> > Dual PC 99 DB-15 connectors (VESA DDC2B + DPMS)
> > 64MB 128 Bit DDR Memory
> > 6.4 GB per second Memory Bandwidth
> > AGP 4X with Fast Writes and Texturing support
> > 1 Year manufacture Warranty. (The cooling fan
> system
> > is great). Model#: 064-A4-NV72-S1  Special 
> > 
> > $92.00
> > 
> > Subtotal » $449.00
> > 
> > Shipping and Handling Charge » $19.21  
> > 
> > Grand Total » $561.21
> > 
> > --------------------
> > How much was that Xeon? $300~500?
> > 
> > 
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> Ivan I. Oleynik                       E-mail :
> oleynik at chuma.cas.usf.edu
> Department of Physics
> University of South Florida
> 4202 East Fowler Avenue                  Tel : (813)
> 974-8186
> Tampa, Florida 33620-5700                Fax : (813)
> 974-5813
>
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