[GE dev] SGEEE easily mistaken as commercial version

Fritz Ferstl Friedrich.Ferstl at sun.com
Thu Oct 25 05:39:59 EDT 2001


Hi Vaclav,

thanks for your message. You are right. We should have the availability of
both product modes in a more prominent place and we should make the
installation easier. We'll change that.

Thanks also for stressing that indeed the Grid Engine project has a strong
open source commitment and therefore provides access to all the available
technology through the very open SISSL license.

Thanks again for your interest in the project as well as for your comments
and clarifications.

Cheers,

Fritz



On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 hanzl at noel.feld.cvut.cz wrote:

> Prospective SGE users could very easily be mistaken and suppose that
> Enterprise Edition is a commercial close source version. If you
> download the three tarfiles from "Binary Downloads" page, unpack them
> and look around, you will install non-EE version. There is no way to
> find easily (from unpacked files) that you could install EE. The pdf
> manual will tell you about EE features but your instalation is missing
> them. No hint at all that EE is also opensource.
> 
> This IMHO seriously harms the SGE project and should be corrected as
> soon as possible by including inst_sgeee script in tar files.
> 
> Potential SGE users and opensource co-developers are likely to know
> PBS, which exists in both opensource and commercial version. During SGE
> test-install many of them will be systematically driven into false
> assumption that SGE project is organised the same.
> 
> I wish all the best to Veridian and PBS and everybody making free
> versions of commercial software. This setup of things however
> inevitably makes opensource users to assess danger that core
> developement team will be torn between opensource and commercial
> version support, will be reluctant to port commercial version fixes to
> opensource version (cause it takes time) and will be unable to
> integrate opensource-community created patches cause without knowledge
> of the commercial version source these patches will diverge.
> 
> It is very sad to have these worries about SGE by mistake.
> 
> 
> Only after lot of hacking around I found that all you have to do to
> install EE is to rename inst_sge to inst_sgeee (and it behaves
> accordingly). Only after this I looked around once more and found this
> at the bottom of binary download page:
> 
>  Only for Grid Engine Enterprise Edition you have to make slight modifications:
>  % cd $SGE_ROOT 
>  % ln -s inst_sge inst_sgeee 
>  % replace inst_sge with inst_sgeee in the last line of the files install_qmaster and install_execd 
>  Then you can proceed as with the standard Grid Engine installation. 
> 
> Well, you may say it is my fault not to notice this before. Sure it is
> but I think this fault is quite common and harms SGE a lot. It is
> worth it to include inst_sgeee in tar files now as many Beowulf
> maillist readers might be prompted by recent SGE discussions to go and
> try SGE - and maybe forget about it if they make the same mistake as I
> did.
> 
> 
> With all the best wishes to SGE team (and thanks for all the work done
> so far)
> 
> Vaclav
> 
> 
> 
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