New Jobs section in parallelcrunchers.net
Pedro Díaz Jiménez
pdiaz88 at terra.es
Sat Oct 6 08:52:48 EDT 2001
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On Friday 05 October 2001 18:40, Greg Lindahl wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 06:38:13PM +0300, Bogdan Taru wrote:
> > About your question: I designed
> > parallelcrunchers when there weren't many CMS related to clusters out
> > there.
> Right. So at this point there's topclusters, beowulf undergorund,
> parallelcrunchers, the IEEE TFCC is trying to have a general interest
> mailing list, and I'm sure I'm leaving someone out.
> The only forum which has "critical mass" for discussions is this
> mailing list. All of the sites are keep separate lists of clusters,
> each incomplete, plus there's one at the Open Directory Project.
(I also hope this isn't much offtopic)
As an owner of one of the cluster sites I have to agree. From my point of
view, we have a bunch of 'clone' websites (including mine) that offer (more
- some discussion forums (not really successful compared to this list)
- some documents (not many)
On the other hand we have some very good mailing lists and newsgroups (like
this one) with a bunch of very knowledgeable people willing to help others
and discuss clustering/parallel/beowulf/whatever topics, _but_ lacking of a
decent support for things other than mail discussions (after all is only
mailing list). And I understand that some people won't like to switch between
mail-web site #1-web site #2-etc...
My point is that if we want to have additional services and features for our
community we have to discuss what _we_ want and _how_ and _where_ we want it.
Right now we have a group of sites 'wasting bandwith' (not trying to be rude)
and doing less service than they could. I (and I'm pretty sure Bogdan and
other site-owners) are willing to work on this, after all, that's why we
created our sites, right?.
My proposal, based on Greg's ideas, is:
- - leave discussions where they belong, that is, the newsgroups and mailing
- - Create web interfaces for the discussion groups mentioned above. That would
centralize more or less the discussions
- - Poll the comunity to find out what we want and we don't have yet. A
document archive?. More news?. A cluster list?. A vendors lists?. jobs? web
space to cluster user groups?
- - _Distribute_ all the proposed job between the existing cluster sites
willing to work based on the resources available on each site . Make clear
what part belongs to what site and try not to duplicate efforts (maybe a
central list of pointers to resources like beowulf.org, or the IE3 TFCC site?)
I don't know if this could work or not, but I just wanted to share my ideas.
> If I were going to design a website for our community, I'd try to work
> with the existing stuff. I'd make the "discussion section" an
> archive/gateway to this mailing list, and maybe a couple of relevant
> newsgroups (mpi). I'd make the list of clusters be at ODP, because it
> has an existing interface to get new links and test them, and it has a
> bunch of links. And I'd try to get a keyword on an existing free Linux
> job service, so that more people could see and submit jobs.
> That's the Linux idea of "embrace and extend" ;)
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